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The Living Presence and the Modified Appearance of that Presence in Time and Space: Part 2

by Richard Harvey on 07/15/16


Dear Richard,

 

The only reason I mentioned these traditions was as a reminder that there are different views of the divine consciousness. I agree that in our times the move is beyond religion. I disagree that all the recorded tradition was simply created from the human mind. Sure some of it did, but some of it is not. I am worried that I’m going to get entangled in semantics and I don't want this to continue as an intellectual debate. Like for example you say that what is truly spiritual is beyond experience and I would say that every single thing is spirit -- denser, manifested perhaps but spirit nevertheless, so for me even everyday life is a spiritual experience, now whether we can perceive it as such or not is a matter of attunement.

 

So before I jump into this subject, let me go back to my original enquiry and try to rephrase it. Do you think that a person’s unfolding can reach a final state? a point beyond which there is no further evolution of their consciousness? Is our end goal individuation?

 

Warmest regards

Thomas

 

 

Hi Thomas

 

There is so much more in my last message that you didn’t reply to…? As for semantics, I believe that how we express ourselves in words is extremely important. In fact, in recent years I have used the insights I have gained from the written word as a valuable and effective tool to help in my work with therapy clients and spiritual aspirants.

 

You ask: “Do you think that a person’s unfolding can reach a final state? a point beyond which there is no further evolution of their consciousness? Is our end goal individuation?”

 

Our end goal is annihilation. That is the point and it is the one that people don’t seem to be interested in, which is why so much “spiritual” work, seeking and practice is superficial. Our end goal cannot be individuation because we are ultimately not separate or individual at all. Our unfolding reaches a state which may be called final or evolving, but it depends on where and how you are looking at it. That is why we have so many religious traditions which are all relatively true. The metaphor I used in my book The Flight of Consciousness is being at the very center of a spinning-top where it is absolutely still and all the action – spinning and evolving – is going on around the central core of profound stillness. Now in a way you could say the center, the axis is generating the spinning, like your friend Dr Brooks in the Tantra Rajanaka school or you could say this non-position position is entirely free of the action, neither participating nor generating.

 

In my book Human Awakening I have written on this subject extensively, so I don’t think we can do it justice to it with a cursory answer. But in essence the development of a human life consists of three stages. First, the transcending of the conditioned self, or basic ego limitations. Second, the challenges of living humanly, authentically and compassionately – and even selflessly  – in relationship to oneself, others, and the world. Third, to engage in the spiritual processes which we might call the quest for the enlightened state (which entails personal annihilation ultimately) through spiritual, transcendent and divine levels of attainment – the keynotes here are renunciation, liberation and surrender.

 

Warm wishes

Richard

 

 

Hello Richard,

 

I think we agree though that the only way to see more light is to go through the darkness, death and annihilation. This is where the shadow work I do is rooted and although as you said there are a lot of people not interested in this work, there is an increasing number that are.

 

Please be patient with me...

 

Finally, for now, can you say a little about our sense of individuality, the psychic realms, and psychic phenomena?

 

With love

Thomas

 

 

Dear Thomas

 

Today we have refined our sense of individuality to the degree that we have become unaware of it. This is and has always been a dangerous impasse to fall into. The perils of unawareness, particularly in a stage of transition, are great.

 

The psychic realms, the realms of personification of the spiritual, of past lives and synchronicity, magic and even events in the temporal-spatial realms have always fascinated me… attracted me and even enticed me. I have seen colors and forms and heard voices and received teachings and been immersed in the atmospheres of other times. Convergence and phenomena echoing or tying in with other phenomena across vast time and space is not a matter of doubt or cynicism for me, because I am aware that everything is connected, that ultimately all arising forms of consciousness are living and dying in the one eternal Consciousness.

 

The knowledge I was born with, or born into, is that I AM and it includes a knowing, a fundamental knowing. Of course as soon as this knowing is expressed in the spatio-temporal realms it is compromised and impure. My task then has been and remains to overcome -- no, not overcome but harmonize perhaps and at least respond to that in surrender and grace to God, the form of the Divine that pervades all things. My concern or perhaps my purpose is beyond or past or higher or deeper than the relative realms of psychic phenomena and fascination with arising phenomena, further too than the relative spiritual concerns of much religious teaching. I am interested in going further in grounding spiritual truth here in the world without division of any kind.

 

Love to you

Richard

 

 

HUMAN AWAKENING may be purchased at http://www.sacredattentiontherapy.com/Books.html

 

THE FLIGHT OF CONSCIOUSNESS may be ordered from amazon at https://www.amazon.com/Flight-Consciousness-Contemporary-Spiritual-Journey/dp/1853981419/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466936314&sr=8-1&keywords=flight+of+consciousness

 

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